There have been several spells to lack the prefix Ice-Make in their name or even spells without any name, yet we added it ourselves and categorized under Ice-Make. Gray and Lyon have been shown to use nothing but Ice-Make (ignoring Gray's IDSM) so it makes zero sense to suddenly categorize a spell in a different way just because the naming is different. As Sane says, it's Molding Magic, not a random chunk of ice, also, when Gray (again quoting Sane) used his Ice Blade spell to rek Ultear, he said he 'believed in Ur's molding magic'. I agree that this and Gray's spell should be treated the same way, but with all of my heart and soul, I ' Oppose' - turning any of them into Ice Magic. Reli, I think you might have missed the fact that Gray's spell was changed into Ice-Make some time ago. only right Ncduru 09:51, (UTC)Д«oth are Ice-Make, not Ice Magic. I Support - what Reli's saying, putting both Gray's and Lyon's Ice Blades under the same distinction and making it into Ice Magic. Although is there really a need to vote? Seems pretty obvious and no one has disagreed. I Support - changing the name to Ice Blade and making it an Ice Magic spell 03:35, (UTC)ДЄgreed. Since no one else wants to comment let's take this into a vote. I think you're right about the blade thing sane Ncduru 17:17, (UTC) I think they should both be treated the same way, having the same Ice Blade name and under the same magic category. This spell as well as Ice Blade: Seven Slice Dance begin the same way (ж°·е€ѓ HyЕЌjin) so I see this spell as being a reflection of Gray's spell on Lyon. I still think we should change Sword to Blade though. Nah, it's clearly Molding Magic rather than a random chunk of ice.

Why would it be Ice Magic? o_O - Sane Lunatic ( talk) 16:23, (UTC)Д¬ause I thought they have to say 'ice make' first before the spell lol Ncduru 16:26, (UTC) I'm not sure about this name at all, cause if the name is going by Crunchy's translation then it's an Ice Magic spell, but going with Stream it's a Ice Make spell.

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